Comments on: ron paul, presidental hopeful http://eatsbugs.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/ron-paul-presidental-hopeful/ Sun, 04 Oct 2009 14:24:04 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: strangerandstranger http://eatsbugs.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/ron-paul-presidental-hopeful/#comment-1460 strangerandstranger Fri, 04 Jan 2008 07:20:21 +0000 http://eatsbugs.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/ron-paul-presidental-hopeful/#comment-1460 They believed in a higher power, God, maybe not the Christian God but a Higher power. And I believe if you reread my comment you will notice I said nothing about the Christian God or Jesus. THe only thing my founding fathers and I have is the fact that we believe in a higher power. I am not projecting my beliefs onto people I don't know. YOu are right about the Constitution, I apologize for my error. But The Decleration of Independce DOES mention God. And you can't tell me that the decleration has had any less effect on this country than the Constitution or any less importance in HIstory. The are being disrespectful. They are breaking our laws, just like every American who breaks the law is being disrespectful. And if they come here only to work, they are using us and our country. They are stealing jobs from us regaurdless of whether or not the majority of the people who pay attention to this stuff believe that Americans don't want to do these jobs. The fact that they are hard workers is irrelavant. They are still BREAKING THE LAW by being in this country ILLEGALLY. If they made the effort and got here legally they would be able to get a real good job and send more money to they're families. THey are being use in return to get better profits. As they live here illegally they face perminant deportation. If they do get caught they will have to leave and will be in the same position they were in before they got here. You say what they are doing is right, but is it really? WHat have we learned fro our past. We learned to fight for our beliefs, our families and the coutry we love. If, instead of coming here and trying to turn our country into the country they left, they decided to rebel and fight the unfair, corrupt government they left their families to live under, would they not find support in other places to help them. Perhaps even in The Unidted States. War is a deadly thing, revolution is even deadlier. But is death for a cause such a bad thing? You yourself said we need a good war to thin out our already overpopulated planet. So is a war for a good reason better breaking a law and losing what you percieve as the only answer to take care of those you love? I have read several articles on the Polar shift. Some of them are of a religous nature but state hard evidence, and are mostly pretaing to the prophecies in revelation. Global warming is a natural process our planet goes through. Sadly the enviro-radicles negate this fact in their charge to de-industrialize the world. (which, incedently, I don't think is a bad idea in itself.) THe past year has seen the most solar activity in recorded time. the sun spots are reversing their own polarities and the solar stormes are getting more violent and unpredictable. Our magneticfeild is failing and the poles are mving faster and faster from the artics. http://www.greatdreams.com/spinaxis.htm http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dp5/pole2.htm http://biblesearchers.com/catastrophes/timeofend/polarshift.shtml-this one is of a religious nature. It compares now to the describtion in the bible about The Flood. It has a lot of hard facts in it. http://www.alienshift.com/id80.html-this one is about Nostrodamus and his Quatraines. Arguments are always healthy and enlightening. They believed in a higher power, God, maybe not the Christian God but a Higher power. And I believe if you reread my comment you will notice I said nothing about the Christian God or Jesus. THe only thing my founding fathers and I have is the fact that we believe in a higher power. I am not projecting my beliefs onto people I don’t know.
YOu are right about the Constitution, I apologize for my error. But The Decleration of Independce DOES mention God. And you can’t tell me that the decleration has had any less effect on this country than the Constitution or any less importance in HIstory.

The are being disrespectful. They are breaking our laws, just like every American who breaks the law is being disrespectful. And if they come here only to work, they are using us and our country. They are stealing jobs from us regaurdless of whether or not the majority of the people who pay attention to this stuff believe that Americans don’t want to do these jobs. The fact that they are hard workers is irrelavant. They are still BREAKING THE LAW by being in this country ILLEGALLY. If they made the effort and got here legally they would be able to get a real good job and send more money to they’re families. THey are being use in return to get better profits. As they live here illegally they face perminant deportation. If they do get caught they will have to leave and will be in the same position they were in before they got here. You say what they are doing is right, but is it really? WHat have we learned fro our past. We learned to fight for our beliefs, our families and the coutry we love. If, instead of coming here and trying to turn our country into the country they left, they decided to rebel and fight the unfair, corrupt government they left their families to live under, would they not find support in other places to help them. Perhaps even in The Unidted States.
War is a deadly thing, revolution is even deadlier. But is death for a cause such a bad thing? You yourself said we need a good war to thin out our already overpopulated planet. So is a war for a good reason better breaking a law and losing what you percieve as the only answer to take care of those you love?

I have read several articles on the Polar shift. Some of them are of a religous nature but state hard evidence, and are mostly pretaing to the prophecies in revelation. Global warming is a natural process our planet goes through. Sadly the enviro-radicles negate this fact in their charge to de-industrialize the world. (which, incedently, I don’t think is a bad idea in itself.) THe past year has seen the most solar activity in recorded time. the sun spots are reversing their own polarities and the solar stormes are getting more violent and unpredictable. Our magneticfeild is failing and the poles are mving faster and faster from the artics.

http://www.greatdreams.com/spinaxis.htm
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dp5/pole2.htm
http://biblesearchers.com/catastrophes/timeofend/polarshift.shtml-this one is of a religious nature. It compares now to the describtion in the bible about The Flood. It has a lot of hard facts in it.
http://www.alienshift.com/id80.html-this one is about Nostrodamus and his Quatraines.

Arguments are always healthy and enlightening.

]]> By: eatsbugs http://eatsbugs.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/ron-paul-presidental-hopeful/#comment-1453 eatsbugs Thu, 03 Jan 2008 17:59:17 +0000 http://eatsbugs.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/ron-paul-presidental-hopeful/#comment-1453 One) Most of the founding fathers, including Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, were Deists. They believed in no supreme power by any specific name. The principles laid down in the Constitution are designed to be mostly un-religious. http://www.thenation.com/doc/20050221/allen What the principles of the Constitution do include is the right to believe whatever you want with such vigor and strength that you can base a life off it as long as it causes no harm to others. God wasn't put in the Constitution on purpose, but other language was used so that a Christian can still be a Christian, and not feel bad about it. Two) I would hardly say that those that come to America from other countries are being disrespectful, as they come here to work. Many of them work harder than most Americans, pulling multiple jobs or jobs that don't make much money and require long hours just to get a little bit of money sent back to their families. What they are doing is right, even if it is illegal. Read this to dispel some myths: http://immigrationforum.org/documents/TheJourney/MythsandFacts.pdf Three) I have only been able to find an article suggesting that magnetism affects global warming, not the other way around. http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6270 One) Most of the founding fathers, including Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, were Deists. They believed in no supreme power by any specific name. The principles laid down in the Constitution are designed to be mostly un-religious. http://www.thenation.com/doc/20050221/allen
What the principles of the Constitution do include is the right to believe whatever you want with such vigor and strength that you can base a life off it as long as it causes no harm to others. God wasn’t put in the Constitution on purpose, but other language was used so that a Christian can still be a Christian, and not feel bad about it.

Two) I would hardly say that those that come to America from other countries are being disrespectful, as they come here to work. Many of them work harder than most Americans, pulling multiple jobs or jobs that don’t make much money and require long hours just to get a little bit of money sent back to their families. What they are doing is right, even if it is illegal. Read this to dispel some myths: http://immigrationforum.org/documents/TheJourney/MythsandFacts.pdf

Three) I have only been able to find an article suggesting that magnetism affects global warming, not the other way around. http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6270

]]> By: firewings http://eatsbugs.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/ron-paul-presidental-hopeful/#comment-1452 firewings Thu, 03 Jan 2008 16:11:32 +0000 http://eatsbugs.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/ron-paul-presidental-hopeful/#comment-1452 I've always wanted an ark. I’ve always wanted an ark.

]]> By: strangerandstranger http://eatsbugs.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/ron-paul-presidental-hopeful/#comment-1451 strangerandstranger Thu, 03 Jan 2008 07:11:09 +0000 http://eatsbugs.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/ron-paul-presidental-hopeful/#comment-1451 As for Roe vs. Wade I personally don't believe it is right for a woman to kill her unborn child. But I do believe that I cannot decide that for someone eles. It is better to leave this legislation in and to try to educate the next generation to have more respect for the consequences of sex then reveling in the joy and giving people an out for being sluty and whorish. To tell someone what they can or cannot do with their own body is unconstitutional. But to keep going with this idea that procreation only begins after the child is born is irresponsible and an excuse to keep shame and responsibility from finding its rightful place in our society. As the great fictional hero Spider Man believes," With great power comes great responisibility." We as a nation have stopped taking responsibility for our actions. But unfortunatly in the next 5-10 years I believe there will be a polar shift that will change our lives and world but hey it's only speculation but if you read enough of these global warming editorials, and then check out the solar reports about sunpots the signs of the Polar shift is coming. It happened in the days of Noah it will happen again. THe magnetic field around our planet is failing. Once it is gone, shortly before the shift, the atmospher will be hit and stripped off (not entirerly) by the solar radiation. The poles will shift and the magnetic field will be restored. As for Roe vs. Wade I personally don’t believe it is right for a woman to kill her unborn child. But I do believe that I cannot decide that for someone eles. It is better to leave this legislation in and to try to educate the next generation to have more respect for the consequences of sex then reveling in the joy and giving people an out for being sluty and whorish. To tell someone what they can or cannot do with their own body is unconstitutional. But to keep going with this idea that procreation only begins after the child is born is irresponsible and an excuse to keep shame and responsibility from finding its rightful place in our society.
As the great fictional hero Spider Man believes,” With great power comes great responisibility.” We as a nation have stopped taking responsibility for our actions.
But unfortunatly in the next 5-10 years I believe there will be a polar shift that will change our lives and world but hey it’s only speculation but if you read enough of these global warming editorials, and then check out the solar reports about sunpots the signs of the Polar shift is coming. It happened in the days of Noah it will happen again.
THe magnetic field around our planet is failing. Once it is gone, shortly before the shift, the atmospher will be hit and stripped off (not entirerly) by the solar radiation. The poles will shift and the magnetic field will be restored.

]]> By: strangerandstranger http://eatsbugs.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/ron-paul-presidental-hopeful/#comment-1450 strangerandstranger Thu, 03 Jan 2008 06:58:14 +0000 http://eatsbugs.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/ron-paul-presidental-hopeful/#comment-1450 Regaurdless of how the Constitution needs to grow it was founded by God fearing men. The preemble, and even in the Constitution its self it discusses the exsistence of a higher power. To say we need to disreguard all thoughts of a higher power is in itself, as you have said before, rediculas. 95 persent of this country beleive in the exsistence of a higher power. Our government is based on a vote of the majority. WHa tis so infuriating about the whole immegration thing is this: If one want's to come to this country to make a better life why are they not willing to give up the loyalty to the country they left? I am filled with anger every time I see anouther countries flag fly anywhere in this country. If you are not willing to pledge your aledgence to The United States get out!!! Do not say," It's my heritage!! I am an american too!!" If you left that country to make a better life for yourself and your family at the very least you should rid yourself of any pride for the country that let you and your family down. That stunt those "immegrants" pulled in california a year or two ago is complete and uter BS! If you don't know what I am talking about go here http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51746 . Immegration is the one thing that helped this country grow the most, and we should never lose that but those who seek asylem here need to understand this is not the country they left and never should become it. Regaurdless of how the Constitution needs to grow it was founded by God fearing men. The preemble, and even in the Constitution its self it discusses the exsistence of a higher power. To say we need to disreguard all thoughts of a higher power is in itself, as you have said before, rediculas. 95 persent of this country beleive in the exsistence of a higher power. Our government is based on a vote of the majority.
WHa tis so infuriating about the whole immegration thing is this:
If one want’s to come to this country to make a better life why are they not willing to give up the loyalty to the country they left? I am filled with anger every time I see anouther countries flag fly anywhere in this country. If you are not willing to pledge your aledgence to The United States get out!!! Do not say,” It’s my heritage!! I am an american too!!” If you left that country to make a better life for yourself and your family at the very least you should rid yourself of any pride for the country that let you and your family down. That stunt those “immegrants” pulled in california a year or two ago is complete and uter BS! If you don’t know what I am talking about go here http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=51746 .
Immegration is the one thing that helped this country grow the most, and we should never lose that but those who seek asylem here need to understand this is not the country they left and never should become it.

]]> By: eatsbugs http://eatsbugs.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/ron-paul-presidental-hopeful/#comment-1449 eatsbugs Thu, 03 Jan 2008 05:00:29 +0000 http://eatsbugs.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/ron-paul-presidental-hopeful/#comment-1449 Yeah, I'd agree with the whole immigration thing if weren't centered around two assumptions: One) those people can get by on their one, why don't they go back and thrive in their own country, and Two) When those people aren't filling those jobs that those without jobs will take them. And sense we have a system where you can get by without a job, that ain't never happening. Besides, there is too much push in the middle class to support our children clear into adulthood...Not that I'm complaining about that, but it is a fact. Yeah, I’d agree with the whole immigration thing if weren’t centered around two assumptions: One) those people can get by on their one, why don’t they go back and thrive in their own country, and Two) When those people aren’t filling those jobs that those without jobs will take them. And sense we have a system where you can get by without a job, that ain’t never happening. Besides, there is too much push in the middle class to support our children clear into adulthood…Not that I’m complaining about that, but it is a fact.

]]> By: firewings http://eatsbugs.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/ron-paul-presidental-hopeful/#comment-1448 firewings Thu, 03 Jan 2008 01:55:59 +0000 http://eatsbugs.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/ron-paul-presidental-hopeful/#comment-1448 You know K, I would slightly agree with you except that where our generation already had an inflated sense of entitlement, I think the next generation might be worse, i.e., I don't think a lot of kids won't want to work those jobs either, even as a starting level. There's fast food and retail before it comes to that. This might be coming from the innate "on the porch with my cane and hose" part of my crotchety personality though. Kids theses days. You know K, I would slightly agree with you except that where our generation already had an inflated sense of entitlement, I think the next generation might be worse, i.e., I don’t think a lot of kids won’t want to work those jobs either, even as a starting level. There’s fast food and retail before it comes to that.

This might be coming from the innate “on the porch with my cane and hose” part of my crotchety personality though. Kids theses days.

]]> By: kc http://eatsbugs.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/ron-paul-presidental-hopeful/#comment-1447 kc Thu, 03 Jan 2008 01:48:24 +0000 http://eatsbugs.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/ron-paul-presidental-hopeful/#comment-1447 Well, lucky for you D, you'll never have to hear or put fourth a case of Roe v. Wade, and if you do, I'd like to meet the lady you knocked up. As for the immigration bit, what's not to like? Take away the benefits we give to the illegals and maybe one day they will stop coming ... illegally. Sounds good to me :) Oh and you like regular chocolate? You racist bastard! Well, lucky for you D, you’ll never have to hear or put fourth a case of Roe v. Wade, and if you do, I’d like to meet the lady you knocked up.

As for the immigration bit, what’s not to like? Take away the benefits we give to the illegals and maybe one day they will stop coming … illegally. Sounds good to me :)

Oh and you like regular chocolate? You racist bastard!

]]> By: eatsbugs http://eatsbugs.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/ron-paul-presidental-hopeful/#comment-1445 eatsbugs Wed, 02 Jan 2008 22:07:37 +0000 http://eatsbugs.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/ron-paul-presidental-hopeful/#comment-1445 You know I thought I might like Ron Paul too, except for his complete libertarian point of view, which I'm not completely in line with. Funny enough, the guy in the video works for the Kucinich campaign. I've been reading up on some of Kucinich's stuff, and while I still think the guy is a little nuts, I'd have to say I like him better. While Video Man is a staunch athetist (and I'm not), Kucinich does allow for a spiritual side to this campaign, but its one that stems from the spirit of law, not the word of some "god" or some such. Now, back to Ron Paul, I have a hard time voting for anyone from Texas. Texas is known for its completely one-sided politics. Example: somewhere in the sixties, over the course of maybe two elections, it went from a completely Democratic state to a completely Republican state, and has been such since. I'd have to say that anyone who could get elected in Texas is full of some shit. Ron Paul is full of some shit, because I can't buy the immigration bit or Roe v. Wade arguments. It's just not in me. That said, I have no idea who I'm voting for as of yet, but I'd like to see Kucinich (the only candidate this election, supposedly, with NO corporate endorsements) grow. You know I thought I might like Ron Paul too, except for his complete libertarian point of view, which I’m not completely in line with.

Funny enough, the guy in the video works for the Kucinich campaign. I’ve been reading up on some of Kucinich’s stuff, and while I still think the guy is a little nuts, I’d have to say I like him better. While Video Man is a staunch athetist (and I’m not), Kucinich does allow for a spiritual side to this campaign, but its one that stems from the spirit of law, not the word of some “god” or some such.

Now, back to Ron Paul, I have a hard time voting for anyone from Texas. Texas is known for its completely one-sided politics. Example: somewhere in the sixties, over the course of maybe two elections, it went from a completely Democratic state to a completely Republican state, and has been such since. I’d have to say that anyone who could get elected in Texas is full of some shit. Ron Paul is full of some shit, because I can’t buy the immigration bit or Roe v. Wade arguments. It’s just not in me.

That said, I have no idea who I’m voting for as of yet, but I’d like to see Kucinich (the only candidate this election, supposedly, with NO corporate endorsements) grow.

]]> By: kc http://eatsbugs.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/ron-paul-presidental-hopeful/#comment-1444 kc Wed, 02 Jan 2008 21:57:26 +0000 http://eatsbugs.wordpress.com/2008/01/02/ron-paul-presidental-hopeful/#comment-1444 HEHE. C, you crack me up. I too love Kucinich for his flilf(yes, that was stolen from colbert), and I agree whole heartedly about your nincompoop statement :) As for Americans picking fruit from the field anymore ... I think that's where I'd disagree. Americans who have a Masters Degree's wouldn't want those jobs yes, but that's not to say that some teenager who's trying to find a job wouldn't take it, even if it is only for a few summers. Hell, even I spent my high school working job hours stuck in a white room shredding paper for 8 hours a day. You have to start somewhere. Speaking of starting somewhere, I think that's why everybody loves Ron Paul. He's got ideas and common sense that would flip America on it's ear(albeit positive, but on it's ear none the less). It's a grassroots movement. Something that, regardless of who I'll be voting for, is exciting to watch. I have a feeling this next election will yield the biggest voter turnout hands down. Personally for me, the goal of the next election is not to get somebody else in office, but to have a landslide victory one way or the other. I'd rather have a 90/10 split of votes rather than a 49/51 like the last election. At least if I chose the "wrong" candidate and was in the voting minority, we wouldn't be so divided. That I'd be perfectly fine with. *side note* I kept saying last year in my previous comment, I meant last election ;) HEHE. C, you crack me up. I too love Kucinich for his flilf(yes, that was stolen from colbert), and I agree whole heartedly about your nincompoop statement :)

As for Americans picking fruit from the field anymore … I think that’s where I’d disagree. Americans who have a Masters Degree’s wouldn’t want those jobs yes, but that’s not to say that some teenager who’s trying to find a job wouldn’t take it, even if it is only for a few summers. Hell, even I spent my high school working job hours stuck in a white room shredding paper for 8 hours a day. You have to start somewhere.

Speaking of starting somewhere, I think that’s why everybody loves Ron Paul. He’s got ideas and common sense that would flip America on it’s ear(albeit positive, but on it’s ear none the less). It’s a grassroots movement. Something that, regardless of who I’ll be voting for, is exciting to watch.

I have a feeling this next election will yield the biggest voter turnout hands down. Personally for me, the goal of the next election is not to get somebody else in office, but to have a landslide victory one way or the other. I’d rather have a 90/10 split of votes rather than a 49/51 like the last election. At least if I chose the “wrong” candidate and was in the voting minority, we wouldn’t be so divided. That I’d be perfectly fine with.

*side note* I kept saying last year in my previous comment, I meant last election ;)

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